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Wednesday, 06 October 2010 11:50

Huang denies Globalfoundries deal

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TSMC to make Tegras

Nvidia CEO Jen-Hsun Huang has denied reports claiming that Nvidia has struck a deal to produce Tegra processors in Globalfoundries fabs.

Huang noted that Nvidia had a strong partnership with TSMC, but we can only speculate whether Nvidia will shift to Globalfoundries in the future.

During a press conference in Taiwan, Huang also conceded that Nvidia lost market share due to AMD’s early lead in the DirectX 11 market. He noted that Nvidia only managed to launch two high end Fermi parts in Q2, but that new products should help fill the gap.

In a couple of weeks Nvidia will start shipping the GT 430, an affordable entry level card that should target AMD’s cheap Redwood series. The GTX 460 and GTS 450 launched in Q3, but they merely managed to catch up with AMD’s mainstream HD 5000 parts. However, AMD’s new HD 6000 series should start appearing in mid-October and it is clear that AMD will have no problem holding on to its lead.

Huang also commented Intel’s and AMD’s Fusion and Sandy Bridge processors, saying that they were extremely difficult to develop and that both were plagued by delays. While this is undoubtedly true, it should be said that this was clear from the start.  Integrating GPUs on CPUs would be a daunting task, but it had to be done. Nobody ever said it would be easy, cheap or fast, but both Intel and AMD are getting there after years of development.

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-4 #1 Alexko 2010-10-06 12:44
How is Sandy Bridge delayed?!
 
 
+20 #2 Regenweald 2010-10-06 13:58
Quoting Alexko:
How is Sandy Bridge delayed?!
Apparently, according to 'reliable' sources, EVERYTHING under the sun except the GT430 is delayed :-*
 
 
+7 #3 Nerdmaster 2010-10-06 15:13
Quote:
The GTX 460 and GTS 450 launched in Q3, but they merely managed to catch up with AMD’s mainstream HD 5000 parts


Actually this is not very accurate.

The 450 matches the 5770 in performance but consumes a bit more power so its a tie(if you consider the time delay 450 is a failure).

On the other hand 460 is on par with 5850 (now with the improved drivers) consumes a little bit (~5%) more power(not important) but it has ~10% better scalling at sli and physx support. Plus it is somewhat cheaper (if you consider the time delay 460 not a win but a tie).

So Nvidia didn't even fully catch up with Amd (450 case).

Now Ati will release next gen cards so probably Nvidia will be on the same situation as last year(embarrassi ng)
 
 
+5 #4 nele 2010-10-06 16:16
Quoting Nerdmaster:
Quote:
The GTX 460 and GTS 450 launched in Q3, but they merely managed to catch up with AMD’s mainstream HD 5000 parts


Actually this is not very accurate.

The 450 matches the 5770 in performance but consumes a bit more power so its a tie(if you consider the time delay 450 is a failure).

On the other hand 460 is on par with 5850 (now with the improved drivers) consumes a little bit (~5%) more power(not important) but it has ~10% better scalling at sli and physx support. Plus it is somewhat cheaper (if you consider the time delay 460 not a win but a tie).

So Nvidia didn't even fully catch up with Amd (450 case).

Now Ati will release next gen cards so probably Nvidia will be on the same situation as last year(embarrassi ng)


I'd call it a tie.

The GF106 is not a bad chip, it's a bit more power hungry than AMD's parts, but as you've pointed out it's got Physx and better SLI scaling (tessellation should be better too). Personally, I'd go for the AMD, since I really don't care about SLI or physics.

If it had launched 6 months ago it would have been competitive, but now it's just too late.

I don't expect the GF108 to do any better. In fact, it will be followed by new AMD entry-level parts in matter of weeks.
 
 
+5 #5 boobster 2010-10-06 18:30
Quoting nele:
If it had launched 6 months ago it would have been competitive, but now it's just too late.



Why is it not competitive because it came out in July?


People compare these cards on game performance and price, not the launch date. It is true that soon AMD will have new cards out and they may be a better deal than the GTX 460. When the GTX 460 came out, almost everyone was recommending them for someone looking for a card in the $200 price range.

It was not only competitive, but the bang 4 the buck leader (in that price class) since the day it came out and still is today.
 
 
0 #6 Nerdmaster 2010-10-06 20:51
Quote:
It was not only competitive, but the bang 4 the buck leader (in that price class) since the day it came out and still is today


Actually the the bang 4 the buck leaders are 4850 and 250 and not 460.
 
 
+1 #7 redisnidma 2010-10-06 23:06
More sour grapes from Jen. He's starting to sound like Fuad. :roll:
 
 
+3 #8 The_Countess 2010-10-07 00:41
Quoting Nerdmaster:
Quote:
The GTX 460 and GTS 450 launched in Q3, but they merely managed to catch up with AMD’s mainstream HD 5000 parts

The 450 matches the 5770 in performance *snip*
On the other hand 460 is on par with 5850

while true, (and short lived as you pointed out.) this is just from the point of the consumer.
looking at it from nvidia's point of view, ALL GF10x chips are larger and therefore more expensive to make then comparable ATI chips.
if nvidia still has its normal ~3 month lead it use to have on ATI this wouldn't be a problem. but now that they are grossly behind (atleast 9 monts) they just can't afford to have larger chips at the same price point. not if that is going to be happening for a few generations anyway.
 

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